<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679</id><updated>2012-02-16T10:40:01.938-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Free Thought</title><subtitle type='html'>"My only wish is ... to transform friends of God into friends of man, believers into thinkers, devotees of prayer into devotees of work, candidates for the hereafter into students of the world, Christians, who by their own admission, are 'half animal, half angel' into persons, into whole persons." - Ludwig Feuerbach</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>42</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-1981050467813224283</id><published>2007-05-17T13:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-05-17T13:10:35.711-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Secular Earth</title><content type='html'>This blog has moved to the blog page on SecularEarth.com. Please drop buy and help us change the world.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-1981050467813224283?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://secularearth.com' title='Secular Earth'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/1981050467813224283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=1981050467813224283' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/1981050467813224283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/1981050467813224283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2007/05/secular-earth.html' title='Secular Earth'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-112793384374411383</id><published>2005-09-28T14:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-09-28T14:57:23.800-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Quote</title><content type='html'>&lt;u&gt;The Quote:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the lawsuit challenging the intelligent design policy, Buckingham was further quoted as saying: &lt;em&gt;"This country was founded on Christianity and our students should be taught as such."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Truth:&lt;/u&gt;If I only had a brain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;em&gt;“This country was founded over 200 years ago and we should be a little more advanced in our thinking by now.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;u&gt;Note:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I will endeavour to provide more intelligent commentary in the future but I find my emotions getting the best of me in witnessing this absurdity.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-112793384374411383?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/112793384374411383/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=112793384374411383' title='26 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112793384374411383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112793384374411383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/09/quote.html' title='The Quote'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>26</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-112774421092811611</id><published>2005-09-26T10:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-12-13T14:38:33.322-05:00</updated><title type='text'>First Kansas and now Pennsylvania. What is goin on down there people? WAKE UP!</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Republished from education.guardian.co.uk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:180%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;US school's evolution teaching goes on trial &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;  Supporters of the theory of evolution go head-to-head with proponents of "intelligent design" in a Pennsylvania court today in what is being billed as a crucial cultural battle for American education.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;A group of parents in the small town of Dover, backed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), is seeking to overturn a decision by the local school board insisting that intelligent design - the claim that complex organisms have been designed rather than evolved in response to natural selection - must be included in the curriculum.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;The case, to be heard in the US district court in nearby Harrisburg, will revisit the clash between creationism and Darwinism in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,1578694,00.html"&gt;1925 Scopes Monkey trial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt; and highlight the growing influence of the religious right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Any verdict in the case could end up before the supreme court because of the importance of the issues at stake.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;The 11 parents challenging the Dover school board will argue that intelligent design is a cover for creationism and therefore an attempt to impose religion in schools.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;"We're fighting for the first amendment, the separation of church and state and the integrity of schools," Philadelphia lawyer Eric Rothschild told the Los Angeles Times. "This trial should decide whether a school board can impose its religious views on other students."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;This is the first legal challenge to the mandatory teaching of intelligent design, which is championed by a growing number of Christian fundamentalists and has been taken up by a number of school boards across the United States. President Bush has backed the teaching of intelligent design in schools.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Although supporters of intelligent design claim it is not creationism because it does not actually mention God, there is no doubt about the religious overtones of the controversy which has split the town of Dover as well as the nation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;In October last year, the school board voted six to three to require a statement on intelligent design approved to be read to ninth-grade science students. One board member, William Buckingham, urged his colleagues: "Nearly 2,000 years ago someone died on a cross for us. Shouldn't we have the courage to stand up for him?" The statement said: "Because Darwin's theory is a theory, it continues to be tested as new evidence is discovered. The theory is not a fact. Gaps in theory exist for which there is no evidence ... Intelligent design is an explanation of the origin of life that differs from Darwin ... With respect to any theory, students are encouraged to keep an open mind."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Students are then pointed to a book, Of Pandas and People: the Central Question of Biological Origins, published by an intelligent design advocacy group, the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, based in Texas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Two school board members, Carol and Jeff Brown, resigned in protest and a group of angry parents contacted the ACLU, which is hoping to put intelligent design on trial as a theory without any credible scientific basis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Standing against them will be a team from the Thomas More Law Center, a non-profit Christian law firm that says its mission is "to be the sword and shield for people of faith" in cases on abortion, school prayer and the 10 commandments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;In Dover, Sheree Hied and her husband Michael strongly back the board. "I think we as Americans, regardless of our beliefs, should be able to freely access information, because people fought and died for our freedoms," she said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:geneva,arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;But neighbour Steven Stough countered: "You can dress up intelligent design and make it look like science, but it just doesn't pass muster. In science class, you don't say to the students, 'Is there gravity, or do you think we have rubber bands on our feet?" '&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-112774421092811611?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://education.guardian.co.uk/schoolsworldwide/story/0,14062,1578678,00.html' title='First Kansas and now Pennsylvania. What is goin on down there people? WAKE UP!'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/112774421092811611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=112774421092811611' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112774421092811611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112774421092811611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/09/first-kansas-and-now-pennsylvania-what.html' title='First Kansas and now Pennsylvania. What is goin on down there people? WAKE UP!'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-112705278793303512</id><published>2005-09-18T10:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-09-18T10:15:31.350-04:00</updated><title type='text'>OPEN LETTER TO KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.venganza.org/"&gt;http://www.venganza.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of Intelligent Design should be taught along with the theory of Evolution. I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them. I am concerned, however, that students will only hear one theory of Intelligent Design.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;I’m sure you now realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory. It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature. &lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; In conclusion, thank you for taking the time to hear our views and beliefs. I hope I was able to convey the importance of teaching this theory to your students. We will of course be able to train the teachers in this alternate theory. I am eagerly awaiting your response, and hope dearly that no legal action will need to be taken. I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;       Sincerely Yours,&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;       Bobby Henderson, concerned citizen.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-112705278793303512?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.venganza.org/' title='OPEN LETTER TO KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/112705278793303512/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=112705278793303512' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112705278793303512'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112705278793303512'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/09/open-letter-to-kansas-school-board.html' title='OPEN LETTER TO KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-112266763167707651</id><published>2005-07-29T16:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-01T08:25:15.056-04:00</updated><title type='text'>An actual horoscope</title><content type='html'>I found reference to this on James Randi's website www.randi.org. James Randi is a man who is doing the world a lot of good.&lt;br /&gt;This was taken from www.freewillastrology.com/horoscopes/libra.html.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Libra&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Thousands of years ago, inhabitants of India thought the Earth was carried by giant elephants, which in turn were balancing on the back of a huge turtle, which itself was perched on top of a stupendous snake. We laugh at this belief now, but many of us have equally preposterous ideas about the way reality is constructed. I mention this, Libra, because it's the best time in many moons for you to revisit your own versions of the elephant-turtle-snake theory. I promise you it will be liberating. So examine any unwieldy delusions that are at the foundation of your personal worldview. Look for evidence that supports your theories about the nature of life, and if you can't find any evidence, abandon the theories.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope visitors to my site will see the irony of the above paragraph without an explanation, but if not just ask and I will explain.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-112266763167707651?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/112266763167707651/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=112266763167707651' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112266763167707651'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/112266763167707651'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/07/actual-horoscope.html' title='An actual horoscope'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-111693860465549902</id><published>2005-05-24T08:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-24T09:26:28.476-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I Am Starting To Think Carl Was Able To Bequeath His Talent.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Borowed from Skeptical Inquirer magazine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Ann Druyan Talks About Science, Religion, Wonder, Awe . . . and Carl Sagan&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;p class="intro"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; It is a great tragedy that science, this wonderful process for finding out what is true, has ceded the spiritual uplift of its central revelations: the vastness of the universe, the immensity of time, the relatedness of all life, and life's preciousness on our tiny planet.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;/p&gt; -Ann Druyan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been thinking about the distorted view of science that prevails in our culture. I've been wondering about this, because our civilization is completely dependent on science and high technology, yet most of us are alienated from science. We are estranged from its methods, its values, and its language. Who is the scientist in our culture? He is Dr. Faustus, Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Strangelove. He's the maker of the Faustian bargain that is bound to end badly. Where does that come from? We've had a long period of unprecedented success in scientific discovery. We can do things that even our recent ancestors would consider magic, and yet our self-esteem as a species seems low. We hate and fear science. We fear science and we fear the scientist. A common theme of popular movies is some crazed scientist somewhere setting about ruining what is most precious to all of us. &lt;p&gt;I think the roots of this antagonism to science run very deep. They're ancient. We see them in Genesis, this first story, this founding myth of ours, in which the first humans are doomed and cursed eternally for asking a question, for partaking of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. It's puzzling that Eden is synonymous with paradise when, if you think about it at all, it's more like a maximum-security prison with twenty-four hour surveillance. It's a horrible place. Adam and Eve have no childhood. They awaken full-grown. What is a human being without a childhood? Our long childhood is a critical feature of our species. It differentiates us, to a degree, from most other species. We take a longer time to mature. We depend upon these formative years and the social fabric to learn many of the things we need to know. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;So here are Adam and Eve, who have awakened full grown, without the tenderness and memory of childhood. They have no mother, nor did they ever have one. The idea of a mammal without a mother is, by definition, tragic. It's the deepest kind of wound for our species; antithetical to our flourishing, to who we are. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Their father is a terrifying, disembodied voice who is furious with them from the moment they first awaken. He doesn't say, "Welcome to the planet Earth, my beautiful children! Welcome to this paradise. Billions of years of evolution have shaped you to be happier here than anywhere else in the vast universe. This is your paradise." No, instead God places Adam and Eve in a place where there can be no love; only fear, and fear-based behavior, obedience. God threatens to kill Adam and Eve if they disobey his wishes. God tells them that the worst crime, a capital offense, is to ask a question; to partake of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. What kind of father is this? As Diderot observed, the God of Genesis "loved his apples more than he did his children." &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This imperative not to be curious is probably the most self-hating aspect of all, because what is our selective advantage as a species? We're not the fastest. We're not the strongest. We're not the biggest. However, we do have one selective advantage that has enabled us to survive and prosper and endure: A fairly large brain relative to our body size. This has made it possible for us to ask questions and to recognize patterns. And slowly over the generations we've turned this aptitude into an ability to reconstruct our distant past, to question the very origins of the universe and life itself. It's our only advantage, and yet this is the one thing that God does not want us to have: consciousness, self-awareness. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Perhaps Genesis should be read as an ironic story. Here's a god who does not give us the knowledge of good and evil. He knows we don't know right from wrong. Yet he tells us not to do something anyway. How can someone who doesn't know right from wrong be expected to do the right thing? By disobeying god, we escape from his totalitarian prison where you cannot ask any questions, where you must never question authority. We become our human selves. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Our nation was founded on a heroic act of disobedience to a king who was presumed to rule by divine right. We created social and legal mechanisms to institutionalize the questioning of authority and the participation of every person in the decision-making process. It's the most original thing about us, our greatest contribution to global civilization. Today, our not-exactly-elected officials try to make it seem as if questioning this ancient story is wrong. . . . That the teaching of our evolving understanding of nature, which is a product of what we have been able to discover over generations, is somehow un-American or disrespectful of strongly held beliefs. As if we should not teach our children what we've learned about our origins, but rather we should continue to teach them this story which demonizes the best qualities of our founding fathers. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This makes no sense and it leads me to a question: Why do we separate the scientific, which is just a way of searching for truth, from what we hold sacred, which are those truths that inspire love and awe? Science is nothing more than a never-ending search for truth. What could be more profoundly sacred than that? I'm sure most of what we all hold dearest and cherish most, believing at this very moment, will be revealed at some future time to be merely a product of our age and our history and our understanding of reality. So here's this process, this way, this mechanism for finding bits of reality. No single bit is sacred. But the search is. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And so we pursue knowledge by using the scientific method to constantly ferret out all the mistakes that human beings chronically make, all of the lies we tell ourselves to combat our fears, all of the lies we tell each other. Here's science, just working like a tireless machine. It's a phenomenally successful one, but its work will never be finished. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In four hundred years, we evolved from a planet of people who are absolutely convinced that the universe revolves around us. No inkling that the Sun doesn't revolve around us, let alone that we are but a minuscule part of a galaxy that contains roughly a hundred billion stars. If scientists are correct, if recent findings of planets that revolve around other stars are correct, there are perhaps five hundred billion worlds in this galaxy, in a universe of perhaps another hundred billion galaxies. And it is conceivable, even possible, that this universe might one day be revealed to be nothing more than an electron in a much greater universe. And here's a civilization that was absolutely clueless four or five hundred years ago about its own tiny world and the impossibly greater vastness surrounding it. We were like a little bunch of fruit flies going around a grape, and thinking this grape is the center of everything that is. To our ancestors the universe was created for one particular gender of one particular species of one particular group among all the stunning variety of life to be found on this tiny little world. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;There was only one problem. These very special beings for whom the universe was created had a holiday called Easter and they wanted to be able to celebrate it on the same day at the same time. But in this geocentric universe that they blissfully inhabited, there was no way to create a workable calendar that was coherent. At this time, there was a phrase to describe what science was. It is suffused with disarming candor and not a bit of self-consciousness at all. It was called &lt;i&gt;saving the appearances&lt;/i&gt;. That was the task of science: To save the appearances. Figure out a way to take the reported appearances of the stars and the planets in the sky and predict with some reliability where they would be in the future. It's almost as if they knew they were living a cosmic lie. To call it saving the appearances is wonderful. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;So the Lateran Council of 1514 was convened, and one of its main goals was to figure out a calendar that everybody could use so that they won't be celebrating Easter on different days. A man named Nicolas Copernicus, who was a very religious guy, whose lifelong career was in the church, had already figured out what the problem was. He was invited to present this information at the Council, but he declined because he knew how dangerous it would be to puncture this cosmological illusion. Even though the pope at that moment was not actually terribly exercised about this idea, Copernicus's fears were not baseless. Even sixty years later, a man named Giordano Bruno was burned alive for one reason: he would not utter the phrase, "There are no other worlds." &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I've thought about this a lot. How could you have the guts to be willing to be burned alive? Bruno had no community of peers to egg him on. He wasn't even a scientist, he didn't really have any scientific evidence, but he chose this horrible death because he refused to say this phrase: "There are no other worlds." It's a magnificent thing, it's a wondrous mystery to me, and I don't think I completely understand how it was possible. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Copernicus did find the courage to publish his idea when he was comfortably   near a natural death. When in 1543, &lt;i&gt;On The Revolutions of Celestial Spheres&lt;/i&gt; was published, something unprecedented happened: a trauma from which we have never recovered. Up until that time, the sacred and the scientific had been one. Priests and scientists had been one in the same. It is true that two millennia before Copernicus there had been the pre-Socratic philosophers, who really were the inventors of science and the democratic values of our society. These ancient Greeks could imagine a universe and a world without God. But they were very much the exception, flourishing too briefly before being almost completely extirpated philosophically by the Platonists. Many of their books were destroyed. Plato loathed their materialism and egalitarian ideals. So there really wasn't a vibrant school of thought with a continuous tradition that survived down through the ages, daring to explain the wonder of nature without resorting to the God hypothesis. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It was actually initiated by a group of uncommonly religious men like Copernicus, Newton, Kepler, and (much later) even Darwin, who catalyzed that separation between our knowledge of nature and what we held in our hearts. All four of them either had religious careers or were contemplating such a profession. They were brilliant questioners, and they used the sharpest tools they had to search for what was holy. They had enough confidence in the reality of the sacred to be willing to look at it as deeply as humanly possible. This unflinching search led to our greatest spiritual awakening-the modern scientific revolution. It was a spiritual breakthrough, and I think that it is our failure to recognize it as such that explains so much of the loneliness and madness in our civilization, so much of the conflict and self-hatred. At that time, the public and their religious institutions, of course, rejected out of hand their most profound insights into nature. It was several hundred years before the public really thought about this, and took seriously what Copernicus was saying. The last four centuries of disconnect between what our elders told us and what we knew was true has been costly for our civilization. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I think we still have an acute case of post-Copernican-stress syndrome. We have not resolved the trauma of losing our infantile sense of centrality in the universe. And so as a society we lie to our children. We tell them a palliative story, almost to ensure that they will be infantile for all of their lives. Why? Is the notion that we die so unacceptable? Is the notion that we are tiny and the universe is vast too much of a blow to our shaky self-esteem? &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It has only been through science that we have been able to pierce this infantile, dysfunctional need to be the center of the universe, the only love object of its creator. Science has made it possible to reconstruct our distant past without the need to idealize it, like some adult unable to deal with the abuse of childhood. We've been able to view our tiny little home as it is. Our conception of our surroundings need not remain the disproportionate view of the still-small child. Science has brought us to the threshold of acceptance of the vastness. It has carried us to the gateway of the universe. However, we are spiritually and culturally paralyzed and unable to move forward; to embrace the vastness, to embrace our lack of centrality and find our actual place in the fabric of nature. That we even &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; science is hopeful evidence for our mental health. It's a breakthrough. However, it's not enough to allow these insights; we must take them to heart. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;What happened four or five hundred years ago? During this period there was a great bifurcation. We made a kind of settlement with ourselves. We said, okay, so much of what we believed and what our parents and our ancestors taught us has been rendered untenable. The Bible says that the Earth is flat. The Bible says that we were created separately from the rest of life. If you look at it honestly, you have to give up these basic ideas, you have to admit that the Bible is not infallible, it's not the gospel truth of the creator of the universe. So what did we do? We made a corrupt treaty that resulted in a troubled peace: We built a wall inside ourselves. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; It made us sick. In our souls we cherished a myth that was rootless in nature. What we actually knew of nature we compartmentalized into a place that could not touch our souls. The churches agreed to stop torturing and murdering scientists. The scientists pretended that knowledge of the universe has no spiritual implications. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It's a catastrophic tragedy that science ceded the spiritual uplift of its central revelations: the vastness of the universe, the immensity of time, the relatedness of all life and it's preciousness on this tiny world. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;When I say "spiritual," it's a complicated word that has some unpleasant associations. Still, there has to be a word for that soaring feeling that we experience when we contemplate 13 billion years of cosmic evolution and four and a half billion years of the story of life on this planet. Why should we give that up? Why do we not give this to our children? Why is it that in a city like Los Angeles, a city of so many churches and temples and mosques, there's only one place like this Center for Inquiry? And that it's only us here today? Fewer than a hundred people in a city of millions? Why is that? Why does the message of science not grab people in their souls and give them the kind of emotional gratification that religion has given to so many? &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This is something that I think we have to come to grips with. There's a confusion generally in our society. There is a great wall that separates what we &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt;   from what we &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt;.    &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Medicine has had an oath that goes back to Hippocrates. Hippocrates is an amazing figure, both a father of scientific ethics and first articulator of the insight that frees humankind to discover the universe. He's one of those pre-Socratic philosophers I was talking about earlier, and he said something that resonated for me at a moment in my life when I realized what my path would be. His words inspired me to try as hard as I could in my own life to make it matter what is true. Hippocrates was writing in an essay called &lt;i&gt;Sacred   Disease&lt;/i&gt; 2,500 years ago. He was writing about the sacred disease that is now called epilepsy, and very matter-of-factly he said something that struck me like a lightning bolt. I'll paraphrase: "People believe that this disease is sacred simply because they don't know what causes it? But some day I believe they will, and the moment they figure out why people have epilepsy, it will cease to be considered divine." Why don't we have schools everywhere that teach children about Hippocrates, about the power of asking questions, rather than cautionary tales about the punishment for doing so. Our kids are not taught in school about Hippocrates, not taught about this multigenerational process of divesting ourselves of superstitions, false pattern recognition, and all the things that go with it, racism, sexism, xenophobia, all that constellation of baggage that we carry with us. We live in a society now where our leadership is all about promoting superstition, promoting xenophobia. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;hr /&gt;    &lt;p&gt; It seems to me that the biggest challenge we face is to evolve a language that couples the cold-eyed skepticism and rigor of science with a sense of community, a sense of belonging that religion provides. We have to make it matter what is true. If instead we say that what really matters is to have faith, what really matters is to believe, we'll never get there. It's not enough to have forty minutes of science in the daily school program, because science shouldn't be compartmentalized that way. Science is a way of looking at absolutely everything. &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p&gt;What I find disappointing about most religious beliefs is that they are a kind of statement of contempt for nature and reality. It's absurdly hubristic. It holds the myths of a few thousand years above nature's many billion-yeared journey. It says reality is inferior and less satisfying than the stories we make up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-111693860465549902?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/111693860465549902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=111693860465549902' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111693860465549902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111693860465549902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/05/i-am-starting-to-think-carl-was-able.html' title='I Am Starting To Think Carl Was Able To Bequeath His Talent.'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-111538266712761302</id><published>2005-05-06T08:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-06T08:31:07.170-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It doesnt take much effort to discredit religion. Its leaders pretty much do that on their own.</title><content type='html'>Today on ABC’s This Week, Robertson was confronted with a passage from his book “The New World Order” where he writes, “How dare you maintain that those who believe in Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims? My simple answer is, ‘Yes, they are."‘&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;STEPHANOPOLOUS: Does that mean Hindu and Muslim judges?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ROBERTSON: Right now, I think people who feel that they should be in jihad against America (inaudible) the Islamic people saying they divide the world into two spheres: Dar al-Islam and Daral-Harb. The Dar al-Islam are those submitted to Islam. Dar al-Harb are those who are at the land of war. And they have said in the Qu’ran there’s a war against all the infidels. Do you want somebody like that sitting as a judge? I wouldn’t.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;STEPHANOPOULOS: So I take it then, the answer to the question is that you believe only Christians and Jews are qualified to serve in the federal judiciary?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ROBERTSON: I’m not sure I’d make such a broad sweeping statement. But I just feel that those who share the philosophy of the founders of this nation, who assent to the principles of the Declaration of Independence, who assent to the principles that underlie the Constitution: Such people are the ones that should be judges.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-111538266712761302?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/111538266712761302/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=111538266712761302' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111538266712761302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111538266712761302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/05/it-doesnt-take-much-effort-to.html' title='It doesnt take much effort to discredit religion. Its leaders pretty much do that on their own.'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-111538236545899767</id><published>2005-05-06T08:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-06T08:26:05.503-04:00</updated><title type='text'>America's Children and Future Are Threatened </title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;I am sorry if I sound a little annoyed, but this story and this situation is pathetic.  My tolerence for religion grows weaker every day.  If you want to beleive in God then fine, go ahead. But at least adapt your religion to what science proves. The church has done this for centuries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why stop at Evolutionary theory, while your at it down there in Kansas why not insist on teaching the alternative view that the Earth is the center of the universe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people of Kansas should be embarassed by this development and should do something about it right now!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/05/06/echoes_of_scopes_trial_heard_in_intelligent_design_hearing/"&gt;Boston.com / News / Nation / Echoes of Scopes Trial heard in 'intelligent design' hearing&lt;/a&gt;: "Echoes of Scopes Trial heard in 'intelligent design' hearing&lt;br /&gt;Kansas panel eyeing school science change&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By Nina J. Easton, Globe Staff  |  May 6, 2005&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TOPEKA, Kan. -- The state's board of education yesterday kicked off a spirited four-day hearing on proposed changes to school science standards that could determine how evolution is taught to the children of Kansas -- five years after voters rebelled against a state school board that had sided with creationists.&lt;br /&gt;ADVERTISEMENT&lt;br /&gt;	&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Employing a courtroom format similar to the famed 1925 Scopes Trial in Tennessee that pitted creationists against evolutionists, the dispute seemed similar -- only this time evolution's critics insist science, not religion, is their motivation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of relying on pens, these lawyers used PowerPoint projections in an auditiorium packed with local residents and journalists from around the world. The ''jury' consisted of three school board members who had already made up their minds -- a veterinarian, an elementary school teacher, and a former preschool operator. All three continued to make clear, as they have in the past, their personal doubts about evolutionary theory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday's witnesses studiously avoided references to God and Christianity, flaunted their scientific credentials, and tossed around words like ''reasoned,' ''empirical,' and ''peer review' as they touted intelligent design theory. Intelligent design, a relatively new twist to criticisms of evolution, posits that certain aspects of the universe -- particularly the origins of life -- are too complex to explain through natural causes, and that scientists should be willing to attribute mysteries to an ''intelligent designer.' Critics say the theory is just creationism dressed up as science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The proposed change to school standards ''does not introduce religion. It does not introduce creationism,' insisted William S. Harris, a professor of medicine credited with groundbreaking research on fish oil's role in combating heart disease and cofounder of a Kansas group, the Intelligent Design Network.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scientists opposing changes to state standards boycotted the hearing, saying the session was rigged to showcase intelligent design theory. Harry McDonald, a retired biology teacher and president of Kansas Citizens for Science, called the hearings a ''farce.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''These are whiney people who haven't done good science on this issue,' he said in an interview. ''They haven't gotten their work accepted through peer review, and so they go crying to the school board.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Intelligent design advocates are actively promoting teaching their critiques of evolutionary theory in at least 16 states besides Kansas, though in yesterday's hearings they stressed they do not argue in favor of forcing the teaching of their own theory. They point to public opinion polls indicating that only a third of Americans believe Darwin's theories are supported by the evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Opponents say intelligent design is stripped of references to God so as not to cross legal lines set in 1987 when the Supreme Court outlawed the teaching of creation science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While mainstream scientists are refusing to send witnesses to the Topeka hearings, they tapped one of the Midwest's top civil rights lawyers, Pedro Irigonegaray, to question proponents of the intelligent design. In cross-examinations, Irigonegaray made the case that Kansas teachers and students already have the right to criticize and debate both evolution and intelligent design, that intelligent design advocates had religious motivations, and that reliance on intelligent design risked thwarting scientific inquiry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The proposed changes, which are being promoted by a three-person school board subcommittee that was not part of the original revision process, would inject language into statewide standards that are critical of macroevolution theory, which refers to evolutionary changes that can result in new species.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Intelligent design advocates say they embrace microevolution -- evolutionary changes within a species. They also want students exposed to evidence challenging Darwin's theory that human and animals share ancestry, and arguments that the origins of life cannot be reduced to chemical reactions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both sides agree that the current school standards do not address origins of life, do allow intelligent design to be discussed, and do not refer to evolution as random or ''unguided.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1999, a Kansas school board controlled by religious conservatives voted to downplay the importance of evolution in the standards. The following year, voters recast the school board with moderates back in control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In media briefings conducted outside yesterday's ''courtroom,' science groups questioned the religious motivations of witnesses appearing on behalf of intelligent design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Harris, the day's first witness, acknowledged his ''designer' would be ''the God of the Bible' and that his interest in school standards dates back to 1999, when antievolutionists were more openly called creationists. He also said that reading ''between the lines,' the standards embraced atheism and naturalism."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-111538236545899767?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/111538236545899767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=111538236545899767' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111538236545899767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111538236545899767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/05/americas-children-and-future-are.html' title='America&apos;s Children and Future Are Threatened '/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-111430308090236851</id><published>2005-04-23T20:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-04-23T20:38:00.903-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;a href='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/20/1065/640/sagan.jpg'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='border:3px solid #660066; margin:2px' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/20/1065/400/sagan.jpg'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-111430308090236851?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/111430308090236851/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=111430308090236851' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111430308090236851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111430308090236851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/04/blog-post_23.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-111037918120920028</id><published>2005-03-09T09:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-03-09T09:41:47.883-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Some new quotes for thought</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153);font-family:century gothic,Arial,Helvetica;" &gt;&lt;p&gt;Religion is the opiate of the people.&lt;br /&gt;~ Karl Marx&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a Christian.&lt;br /&gt;- Mark Twain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy,&lt;br /&gt;education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary.&lt;br /&gt;Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of&lt;br /&gt;punishment and hope of reward after death.&lt;br /&gt;~ Albert Einstein&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;"Where knowledge ends, religion begins."&lt;br /&gt;-- Benjamin Disraeli&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by Homo Sapiens is that the Lord  God of&lt;br /&gt;Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of  his&lt;br /&gt;creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and becomes petulant if he  does&lt;br /&gt;not receive this flattery. Yet this ridiculous notion, without one real shred of&lt;br /&gt;evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found one of the oldest, largest and  least&lt;br /&gt;productive industries in history."&lt;br /&gt;-- Robert Heinlein&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."&lt;br /&gt;-- Napoleon Bonaparte&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; "Hell is an outrage on humanity. When you tell me that your deity made you in  his image,&lt;br /&gt;I reply that he must have been very ugly."&lt;br /&gt;-- Victor Hugo&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; "Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible,&lt;br /&gt;the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a&lt;br /&gt;vacuum remains."&lt;br /&gt;-- Robert G. Ingersoll&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; "Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage,  clear&lt;br /&gt;thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth."&lt;br /&gt;-- Henry Mencken&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; "Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common  sense."&lt;br /&gt;-- Francois Marie Arouet (Voltaire)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p&gt; "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."&lt;br /&gt;-- Napoleon Bonaparte&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good people can do good and bad people can do evil. But for good people to do  evil -- that takes religion.&lt;br /&gt;-- Steven Weinberg&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious  conviction.&lt;br /&gt;-- Blaise Pascal&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-111037918120920028?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/111037918120920028/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=111037918120920028' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111037918120920028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/111037918120920028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/03/some-new-quotes-for-thought.html' title='Some new quotes for thought'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110934219643313086</id><published>2005-02-25T09:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-02-25T09:36:36.433-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Praying for the Pope</title><content type='html'>"Pope John Paul II has released a new controversial book where he suggests same-sex marriage is part of an "ideology of evil" and draws an analogy between abortion and the Holocaust."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This type of hatred cannot be tolerated. In my country if I wrote a book and stated that gay marriage was evil I &lt;strong&gt;may&lt;/strong&gt; be charged with a hate crime.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pope should be respected for holding true to his faith, but as society changes (and the Catholic church is always the last to jump on board) we must take responsibility to argue against statements that are both ridiculous and harmful.  If the Pope had said that evolution is the new ideology of evil, I would not have been concerned. No people were attacked by a statement like that. It is doubtful that scientists will be assaulted in bars. But homosexuals are much more of a target to pathetic individuals who could justify their actions with the words of the Pope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am tired of his defenders stating all the good he has done (I agree he has done some good) with statements like John Paul II has seen the fall of communism. Well so have I, but John Paul was no more responsible for the fall of communism than I was. Lets not forget he has also seen the rise of pedophilia within the church, and this is an area where he has some power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not wish any ill will for a man who has devoted his life to his faith, but I will always point out the fallacy of his beliefs and all others who believe as he does. Sooner or later their will be a new pope and while I wish we could just scrap the whole religion altogether, I know this will not happen (yet). So the best we can hope for at this stage is a Pope that grew up in another generation and is somewhat more worldly in his views. Perhaps a Pope who lived through the sixties. This way changes that swept western society 45 years ago could finally reach the Vatican.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110934219643313086?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110934219643313086/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110934219643313086' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110934219643313086'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110934219643313086'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/02/praying-for-pope.html' title='Praying for the Pope'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110607062460150199</id><published>2005-01-18T12:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-01-18T12:50:24.600-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Worst Christianity Has to Offer</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;This letter was written to President Bush after his election win.  Can you imagine if more of these types actually find themselves in positions of power.  A government like that would be the Taliban of Christianity.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; November 3, 2004&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    President George W. Bush&lt;br /&gt;    The White House&lt;br /&gt;    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW&lt;br /&gt;    Washington, DC 20500&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Dear Mr. President:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    The media tells us that you have received the largest number of popular votes of any president in America's history. Congratulations!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    In your re-election, God has graciously granted America--though she doesn't deserve it--a reprieve from the agenda of paganism. You have been given a mandate. We the people expect your voice to be like the clear and certain sound of a trumpet. Because you seek the Lord daily, we who know the Lord will follow that kind of voice eagerly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Don't equivocate. Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ. Honor the Lord, and He will honor you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Had your opponent won, I would have still given thanks, because the Bible says I must (I Thessalonians 5:18). It would have been hard, but because the Lord lifts up whom He will and pulls down whom He will, I would have done it. It is easy to rejoice today, because Christ has allowed you to be His servant in this nation for another presidential term. Undoubtedly, you will have opportunity to appoint many conservative judges and exercise forceful leadership with the Congress in passing legislation that is defined by biblical norm regarding the family, sexuality, sanctity of life, religious freedom, freedom of speech, and limited government. You have four years--a brief time only--to leave an imprint for righteousness upon this nation that brings with it the blessings of Almighty God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Christ said, "If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my father honour" (John 12:26).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    The student body, faculty, and staff at Bob Jones University commit ourselves to pray for you--that you would do right and honor the Savior. Pull out all the stops and make a difference. If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them. Conservative Americans would love to see one president who doesn't care whether he is liked, but cares infinitely that he does right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Best wishes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Sincerely your friend,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Bob Jones III&lt;br /&gt;    President&lt;br /&gt;    BJIII:lw&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    PS: A few moments ago I read this letter to the students in Chapel. They applauded loudly their approval.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    When I told them that Tom Daschle was no longer the minority leader of the Senate, they cheered again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    On occasion, Christians have not agreed with things you said during your first term. Nonetheless, we could not be more thankful that God has given you four more years to serve Him in the White House, never taking off your Christian faith and laying it aside as a man takes off a jacket, but living, speaking, and making decisions as one who knows the Bible to be eternally true. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110607062460150199?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110607062460150199/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110607062460150199' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110607062460150199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110607062460150199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/01/worst-christianity-has-to-offer.html' title='The Worst Christianity Has to Offer'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110570238851557259</id><published>2005-01-14T06:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-01-14T06:33:08.516-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Unknown author's</title><content type='html'>"'Faith is deciding to allow yourself to believe something&lt;br /&gt;your intellect would otherwise cause you to reject --&lt;br /&gt;otherwise there's no need for faith.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'Theology: The study of elaborate verbal disguises for non-ideas'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'I am treated as evil by those who feel persecuted because they are not allowed to force me to believe as they do.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'A society without religion is like a crazed psychopath without a .45.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.&lt;br /&gt;Religion is answers that may never be questioned.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;'Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day;&lt;br /&gt;give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.'&lt;br /&gt;unknown author&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The mind of the fundamentalist is like the pupil of the eye:&lt;br /&gt;the more light you pour on it, the more it will contract.&lt;br /&gt;unknown author"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110570238851557259?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110570238851557259/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110570238851557259' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110570238851557259'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110570238851557259'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2005/01/unknown-authors.html' title='Unknown author&apos;s'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110428295611874719</id><published>2004-12-28T20:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-28T20:15:56.116-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Faith and Reason Quotes</title><content type='html'>William K Clifford&lt;br /&gt;“It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Richard Dawkins&lt;br /&gt;“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benjamin Franklin&lt;br /&gt;“The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William James&lt;br /&gt;“Faith means belief in something concerning which doubt is theoretically possible.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Søren Kierkegaard&lt;br /&gt;“Certainty... lurks at the door of faith and threatens to devour it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Martin Luther&lt;br /&gt;“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blaise Pascal&lt;br /&gt;“Faith certainly tells us what the senses do not, but not the contrary of what they see; it is above, not against them.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bertrand Russell&lt;br /&gt;“We may define ‘faith’ as the firm belief in something for which there is no evidence. Where there is evidence, no one speaks of "faith." We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mark Twain&lt;br /&gt;“Faith is believing what you know ain’t so.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Voltaire&lt;br /&gt;“Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110428295611874719?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110428295611874719/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110428295611874719' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428295611874719'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428295611874719'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/faith-and-reason-quotes.html' title='Faith and Reason Quotes'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110428103029183065</id><published>2004-12-28T19:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-28T20:17:12.306-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."&lt;br /&gt;-William Kingdon Clifford&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."&lt;br /&gt;-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787 &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110428103029183065?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110428103029183065/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110428103029183065' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428103029183065'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428103029183065'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/it-is-wrong-always-everywhere-and-for.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110428082108853112</id><published>2004-12-28T19:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-28T19:40:21.086-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>     When I became convinced that the universe is natural--that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light, and all the bolts and bars and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world--not even in infinite space. I was free--free to think, to express my thoughts--free to live to my own ideal--free to live for myself and those I loved--free to use all my faculties, all my senses--free to spread imagination's wings--free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope--free to judge and determine for myself--free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the "inspired" books that savages have produced, and all the barbarous legends of the past--free from sanctified mistakes and holy lies--free from the fear of eternal pain-- free from the winged creatures of the night--free from devils, ghosts, and gods. For the first time I was free. There were no prohibited places in all the realms of thought--no air, no space, where fancy could not spread her painted wings--no chains for my limbs--no lashes for my back--no fires for my flesh--no master's frown or threat--no following in another's steps--no need to bow, or cringe, or crawl or utter lying words. I was free. I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously faced all words. And then my heart was filled with gratitude, with thankfulness, and went out in love to all the heroes, the thinkers who gave their lives for the liberty of hand and brain--for the freedom of labor and thought--to those who fell on the fierce fields of war, to those who died in dungeons bound in chains--to those by fire consumed--to all the wise, the good, the brave of every land, whose thoughts and deeds have given freedom to the sons of men. And then I vowed to grasp the torch that they had held, and hold it high, that light might conquer darkness still.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robert Green Ingersoll&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110428082108853112?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110428082108853112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110428082108853112' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428082108853112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110428082108853112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/when-i-became-convinced-that-universe.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110330203419632462</id><published>2004-12-17T11:47:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-17T11:47:14.196-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My First occurrence of Disregarding God</title><content type='html'>My views and opinions on religion were both developed out of my own experiences as a child attending Sunday school and as an adult who has developed somewhat of a "Free thought" attitude. Free thought is the need to justify an opinion with evidence rather than to have faith in an opinion in spite of evidence. (see &lt;a href="http://freethought.freeservers.com/"&gt;http://freethought.freeservers.com/&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a child of approximately seven or eight years old I was attending Sunday school classes (an event I dutifully tried to avoid every week). It occurred to me at some point prior to going to class that the story of creation in the Bible as I understood it conflicted with my understanding of dinosaurs and their presence on Earth 65 million years ago. I asked my mom about this at the time and I suppose as she was unable to answer the question (being a "believer"); she suggested that I ask the Sunday school teacher. As best I can recall I set out to do just that in my next class. The Sunday school teacher being an older woman, very conservative I would say in retopect, struck me as someone who would not be able to answer the question. My concern fore putting her in a awkward situation in which she have no answer in frount of the entire class forced me to abandon my question. She may have very well had an answer but to this day my doubt remains.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even at this age I was aware that stories I was being told every week were not backed up by any degree of evidence, while evidence was abundant for opposing views. I cannot remember as I look back, a time when I ever really believed in God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110330203419632462?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110330203419632462/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110330203419632462' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110330203419632462'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110330203419632462'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/my-first-occurrence-of-disregarding.html' title='My First occurrence of Disregarding God'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110330099563800679</id><published>2004-12-17T11:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-17T11:29:55.636-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I can't beleive I have never added this Saganism</title><content type='html'>Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.  -Carl Sagan&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110330099563800679?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110330099563800679/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110330099563800679' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110330099563800679'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110330099563800679'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-cant-beleive-i-have-never-added-this.html' title='I can&apos;t beleive I have never added this Saganism'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110320517818556652</id><published>2004-12-16T08:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-16T08:52:58.186-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Intelligent design being taught in US schools</title><content type='html'>As a Canadian this does not directly affect me as I have not heard of any jurisdictions adding "&lt;em&gt;Intelligent &lt;/em&gt;Design" to the curriculum.  However, south of the border in the US it is being added by more and more school boards as part of their high school biology or science classes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the US, Intelligent Design is not taught in any credible Universities, the only exceptions are a couple of evangelist run institutions.  I have read several articles in the last couple of days in which Intelligent Design is referred to as a theory (ie Intelligent Design Theory), as if it should be considered along side the likes of Evolutionary Theory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Their are 2 definitions of theory that apply here:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.&lt;/strong&gt; A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and &lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;/strong&gt; An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first definition is the accepted scientific definition of what constitutes a theory, the second is a contrived definition whos usefulness is designed to add credibility to a statement which would not be considered probable.&lt;br /&gt;The first definition applies to Evolutionary Theory. The second definition describes what the religious right has done to adapt to a more and more accepted truth that threatens to discredit their beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Intelligent Design is pseudo-science.  Adding this to the curriculum only serves to put those students at an intellectual disadvantage when compared to students around the world.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Teaching Intelligent Design serves and agenda.  The very fact that their are groups who lobby to have this added should be cause for alarm, it should make us ask why.  Evolutionary Theory on the other hand has earned its place within the schools.  It has been tested, it has adapted and it is accepted.  Proof of this is the emergence of Intelligent Design as a last ditch effort to make some connection to a God, but in accepting intelligent design one has to completely disregard Genesis.  I wonder if the religious right considered that.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110320517818556652?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110320517818556652/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110320517818556652' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110320517818556652'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110320517818556652'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/intelligent-design-being-taught-in-us.html' title='Intelligent design being taught in US schools'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110269337728628361</id><published>2004-12-10T10:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-10T10:42:57.286-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Why I am an Atheist</title><content type='html'>The following is an excellent article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/why-atheist.htm"&gt;Why I am an Atheist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110269337728628361?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110269337728628361/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110269337728628361' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110269337728628361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110269337728628361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/why-i-am-atheist.html' title='Why I am an Atheist'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110268866025311268</id><published>2004-12-10T09:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-10T09:24:20.253-05:00</updated><title type='text'>from: "The Value of Free Thought"</title><content type='html'>What makes a Free Thinker is not his beliefs, but the way in which he holds them.  If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought, he finds a balance of evidence in their favor, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem.' &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Bertrand Russell&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110268866025311268?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110268866025311268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110268866025311268' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110268866025311268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110268866025311268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/from-value-of-free-thought.html' title='from: &quot;The Value of Free Thought&quot;'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110246519574039189</id><published>2004-12-07T19:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-07T19:19:55.740-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Once again a quote from the best.</title><content type='html'>To discover that the Universe is some 8 to 15 billion years and not 6 to 12 thousand years old improves our appreciation of its sweep and grandeur; to entertain the notion that we are a particularly complex arrangement of atoms, and not some breath of divinity, at the very least enhances our respect for atoms; to discover, as now seems probable, that our planet is one of billions of other worlds in the Milky Way Galaxy and that our galaxy is one of billions more, majestically expands the arena of what is possible; to find that our ancestors were also the ancestors of apes ties us to the rest of life and makes possible important - if occaisionally rueful - reflections on human nature.&lt;br /&gt;--Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110246519574039189?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110246519574039189/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110246519574039189' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246519574039189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246519574039189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/once-again-quote-from-best.html' title='Once again a quote from the best.'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110246495051301729</id><published>2004-12-07T19:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-07T19:15:50.513-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Men dare not avow, even to their own hearts, the doubts which they entertain on such subjects. They make a merit of implicit faith; and disguise to themselves their real infidelity, by the strongest asseverations and the most positive bigotry.&lt;br /&gt;--David Hume&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110246495051301729?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110246495051301729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110246495051301729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246495051301729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246495051301729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/men-dare-not-avow-even-to-their-own.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110246478459706711</id><published>2004-12-07T19:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-12-07T19:13:04.596-05:00</updated><title type='text'>from: The Age of Reason</title><content type='html'>Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving, it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe.  It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.  --Tom Paine&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110246478459706711?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110246478459706711/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110246478459706711' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246478459706711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110246478459706711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/12/from-age-of-reason.html' title='from: The Age of Reason'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110149716374669540</id><published>2004-11-26T14:26:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-26T14:26:03.746-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bible Verses</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;I was going to write about ridiculous bible verses in the next couple of days, but this e-mail I received has saved me the trouble.  Feel free to verify these, they are all in the bible.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Dear President Bush,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18: 22 clearly states it to be an abomination . . End of debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Leviticus 25: 44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a air price for her?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev. 15: 19-24. The oblem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. 1: 9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35: 2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11: 10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of abomination?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. Lev. 21: 20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19: 19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and aspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20: 14)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, as well, you have a direct line to God so I am confident you can help&lt;br /&gt;Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110149716374669540?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110149716374669540/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110149716374669540' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110149716374669540'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110149716374669540'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/bible-verses.html' title='Bible Verses'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110105699492486261</id><published>2004-11-21T13:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-21T12:09:54.923-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My Favorite Person to Quote.</title><content type='html'>A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.&lt;br /&gt;-Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I maintain there is much more wonder in science than in pseudoscience. And in addition, to whatever measure this term has any meaning, science has the additional virtue, and it is not an inconsiderable one, of being true.&lt;br /&gt;-  Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where we have strong emotions, we're liable to fool ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;-Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A central lesson of science is that to understand complex issues (or even simple ones), we must try to free our minds of dogma and to guarantee the freedom to publish, to contradict, and to experiment. Arguments from authority are unacceptable.&lt;br /&gt;-Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.&lt;br /&gt;-Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think of how many religions attempt to validate themselves with prophecy. Think of how many people rely on these prophecies, however vague, however unfulfilled, to support or prop up their beliefs. Yet has there ever been a religion with the prophetic accuracy and reliability of science?&lt;br /&gt;-Carl Sagan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110105699492486261?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110105699492486261/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110105699492486261' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105699492486261'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105699492486261'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/my-favorite-person-to-quote.html' title='My Favorite Person to Quote.'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110105642716198368</id><published>2004-11-21T11:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-21T12:00:27.160-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>"People think that epilepsy is divine simply because they don't have any idea what causes epilepsy. But I believe that someday we will understand what causes epilepsy, and at that moment, we will cease to believe that it's divine. And so it is with everything in the universe."  -Hippocrates, (2500 years ago)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110105642716198368?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110105642716198368/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110105642716198368' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105642716198368'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105642716198368'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/people-think-that-epilepsy-is-divine.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110105617031322576</id><published>2004-11-21T11:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-21T11:56:10.313-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A Speech by Ann Druyan</title><content type='html'>I'm deeply honored to accept this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I'd like to tell you, briefly, why science it so important to me and why the notion of freedom from religion and freethought is, I think, so centrally important to our society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My interest in science comes from the moment I discovered one of the pre-Socratic philosophers, a man named Hippocrates who's known to most people as the person who developed the Hippocratic Oath that physicians take. He was an Ionian scientist of 2,500 years ago. He wrote: "People think that epilepsy is divine simply because they don't have any idea what causes epilepsy. But I believe that someday we will understand what causes epilepsy, and at that moment, we will cease to believe that it's divine. And so it is with everything in the universe."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; If you are going to pick a moment when science was formally invented you might go back to this insight of Hippocrates, because it's a great aperture to the universe, revealed by science, to the magnificent images that Alan Hale presented to us moments ago, to that image of billions of galaxies, a trillion stars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Science really delivers the goods. One of the billions and billions of reasons why I revere and cherish Carl Sagan's life is that he felt that it was his personal responsibility as a scientist to share with everyone the revelations, the great liberating power, the powers of demystification that science makes possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Not just as scientists but as citizens also, it's our duty to create a society in which everyone has that bologna-detection kit inside their heads, everybody can tell a good argument from a bad argument, can know when their buttons are being pushed, when they're being manipulated, when they're being lied to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I see a quote up there from the great Margaret Sanger: "No Gods - No Masters." And this notion of no masters is almost in violation of our evolutionary heritage. We are primates, just like the other primates. We share more than 99.6% of our active genes with the chimpanzee. As we've begun to study natural chimpanzee society, not in zoos, but in the wild as Jane Goodall pioneered, we recognize that there is such a thing as chimpanzee politics, chimpanzee social organization. And so it is with us. We have certain tendencies to worship an "Alpha," to look for a leader who will tell us what to do and keep us in line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; The Bill of Rights and the method of science are error-correcting mechanisms that we've devised to compensate for these evolutionary tendencies that we have. The notion of no masters, the notion of a Bill of Rights that protects us from the Alpha pushing everyone else around, the notion of the method of science which says no argument from authority, that each of us should be equal in some sense, have equal access to the information, be able to determine on our own, independently, what is true, these are the great achievements of human society, the most precious thing that we have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Very often you encounter in our society a kind of resentment and a fear of science. In fact, virtually all of the scientists depicted on television or in popular culture are monsters, really. Either they're socially completely alienated from everyone else, or they've made some pact with the devil, some Faustian bargain in exchange for this arcane information, they've sold their souls, and they're a threat to all of us. This is true in virtually every movie that you see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; We fear science. And for good reason. It has a kind of secret language and a methodology which is very ungiving, which is saying that it's not what makes you feel good, it's what's true that matters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I think that Carl's voice in this regard was a great, great service to our culture and to our society, because not only did he convey the importance of skepticism, but also the importance of wonder, too, to have both wonder and skepticism at the same time. People think that if you are a scientist you have to give up that joy of discovery, that passion, that sense of the great romance of life. I say that's completely opposite of the truth. The fact is that the real thing is far more dazzling, far more goose-bump-raising, than any myth or childish story that we can make up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think, in fact, that the idea that our species has begun to do science earnestly and consistently only in the very recent past is an indication of a kind of adulthood maturity, that we can bear to receive the great demotions that science offers us. We're not at the center of the universe. We're not even at the center of our tiny solar system. We're very young, very new to the universe and to our investigations of nature. But the fact that we are willing to accept these great blows to our narcissism, to our need to be the center of the universe, is a sign that we are growing much more secure. It's something that gives me a lot of hope for the human future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I remember that one time Carl was giving a talk, and he spelled out, in a kind of withering succession, these great theories of demotion that science has dealt us, all of the ways in which science is telling us we are not who we would like to believe we are. At the end of it, a young man came up to him and he said: "What do you give us in return? Now that you've taken everything from us? What meaning is left, if everything that I've been taught since I was a child turns out to be untrue?" Carl looked at him and said, "Do something meaningful."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I believe that is one of the great lessons of his life. I'd like to tell you how much this award means to me, and how much it means to me that you gather as a community of people who are determined to think independently. I know that in some of the communities that you come from, this can be a somewhat unrewarding and lonely kind of experience, but the fact that you're willing to do this moves me tremendously. I'm very grateful to be honored by you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Thank you so much. &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110105617031322576?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110105617031322576/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110105617031322576' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105617031322576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110105617031322576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/speech-by-ann-druyan.html' title='A Speech by Ann Druyan'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110010283202342669</id><published>2004-11-10T11:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-10T11:07:12.023-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Imagine no religion, &lt;br /&gt;I wonder if you can?&lt;br /&gt;Nothing to kill or die for,&lt;br /&gt;A brotherhood of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-John Lennon&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110010283202342669?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110010283202342669/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110010283202342669' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110010283202342669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110010283202342669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/imagine-no-religion-i-wonder-if-you.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-110010241488829405</id><published>2004-11-10T11:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-10T11:00:14.890-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Charlotte Observer | 11/10/2004 | Evolution on trial</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;The following article that appeared in the November 10th edition of the Charlotte Observer is a precise view of the fudamentalism that is trying to influence the view of Americans.  This ideology, based entirely on mythology will prevent the next generation of Americans from forming intelligent opinions about the world around them.  This is akin to book-burning, and exactly what we accuse other fundamentalist countries of doing.  Perhaps these stickers do belong on a book, that book is the bible.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evolution on trial&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ignorance of science hazardous to next generation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Cobb County, Ga., a trial is under way. The nature of the dispute draws a smile: disclaimer stickers about evolution placed on public school textbooks. But the overriding question is serious: how evolution should be taught in public schools.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fundamental issue is intellectual honesty in public education. That's a fight worth fighting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Georgia lawsuit arose after a school board in a suburban Atlanta school district placed stickers inside the front cover of science books used in middle and high schools. Here is what they said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"This textbook contains material about evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That warning seems harmless, but it must be viewed in a larger context. Across America a debate rages over whether schools should also acknowledge an alternative view of development of life on Earth -- the biblical view. Certainly that view should be respected, but it should not determine what is taught in school as science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, though not all of Charles Darwin's ideas about evolutionary mechanisms have held up, much in biology makes no sense without evolution. As with all science, knowledge evolves as new discoveries are made, but discoveries haven't discredited the fact of evolution. A community that sends its young people into the world ignorant of that fact does them no favors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cobb County is expected to argue that the purpose of the stickers is to teach tolerance, not discount evolution or endorse religion. But the act of adding a disclaimer is a way to discredit a high school biology text used by more than a million students in all 50 states. It's part of a nationwide effort to chip away at evolution. Witness the push in Texas last year to revise textbooks to include evolution's so-called "flaws."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The record in places like Iran and Afghanistan speaks clearly. When religious beliefs dictate what the schools teach as fact, the honest search for knowledge is endangered. That's what the conflict in Georgia is about.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-110010241488829405?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/110010241488829405/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=110010241488829405' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110010241488829405'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/110010241488829405'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/charlotte-observer-11102004-evolution.html' title='Charlotte Observer | 11/10/2004 | Evolution on trial'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109952673259425467</id><published>2004-11-03T19:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2004-11-03T19:05:32.596-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever&lt;br /&gt;conceived." - Isaac Asimov&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109952673259425467?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109952673259425467/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109952673259425467' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109952673259425467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109952673259425467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/11/properly-read-bible-is-most-potent.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109880527387373805</id><published>2004-10-26T11:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-12-17T11:48:45.326-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;strong style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;"When Kepler found his long-cherished belief did not agree with the most precise observation, he accepted the uncomfortable fact. He preferred the hard truth to his dearest illusions, that is the heart of science." - Carl Sagan&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109880527387373805?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109880527387373805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109880527387373805' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109880527387373805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109880527387373805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/10/when-kepler-found-his-long-cherished.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109873514052750824</id><published>2004-10-25T16:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-12-17T11:49:06.650-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'> "Religion prevents our children from having a rational education; religion prevents us from removing the fundamental causes of war; religion prevents us from teaching the ethic of scientific cooperation in place of the old fierce doctrines of sin and punishment. It is possible that mankind is on the threshold of a golden age; but, if so, it will be necessary first to slay the dragon that guards the door, and this dragon is religion." - Bertrand Russell&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109873514052750824?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109873514052750824/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109873514052750824' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109873514052750824'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109873514052750824'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/10/religion-prevents-our-children-from.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109873457726812938</id><published>2004-10-25T16:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-10-29T13:57:32.666-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Was Darwin Wrong? @ National Geographic Magazine</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0411/feature1/index.html"&gt;Was Darwin Wrong? @ National Geographic Magazine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article that appeared in this month’s issue of National Geographic was disturbing to say the least.  The article begins with the results of a survey conducted on the American population which found that 45% of respondents believed that humanity was created by God sometime in the last 10,000 years.  This is half of the population of the most powerful and richest country on the face of the Earth. This is half of the people who will be voting for a president on November 2nd. This is scary.  But even scarier than that is the fact that these numbers have not changed in the last 30 years. Thirty years ago 45% believed the same thing. You would think that with the advancement of science and technology and with people walking on the moon; that Americans would be developing a more enlightened view of their world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evolutionary science is one of the most important within the scientific community today.  Evolutionary science will cure diseases, correct birth defects and generally advance humanity. Those who hold such closed and ridiculous views of the world in which they live will delay this progress by opposing things like stem cell research. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am tired of the argument that it is just a theory. A theory is not an abstract idea or a notion that something might be true. A theory is an explanation of something that is supported by the evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion has been adapting to the discoveries of science for thousands of years. It has been adapting out of necessity, it must maintain power and wealth and without followers it will it will lose both.  If a religion holds true to the belief of something which has been proven false then the followers will stray.  The most obvious proof of this is religions view at the time of Copernicus that the Earth was the centre of the universe and everything including the Sun evolved around it.  The church (mainly the Vatican) opposed this view and fought it vigorously.  Eventually though, they had to concede. They were wrong and the public new this and the church had to adapt to keep its followers.  I would argue that if something is wrong time and time again especially something that is supposed to be of divine creation (like the Bible) then it is time to stop adapting it and disregard it altogether.  Some would argue that science adapts its views all the time, and changes its opinion based on new evidence.  I agree that this is true, but this is the nature of science. Science is supposed to try new ideas and discover new things and change. Religion is supposed to represent a divine view and not have to adapt because after all, it is the truth, right? Wrong. Religion is not real, that is why it has been adapting for many thousands of years. From Rai the Sun God to the Mayan snake/bird to Greek Mythology to Christianity, Islam, Buddha, and Hindi and so on, they have all either adapted or disappeared altogether.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evolution is real, it is the actual explanation of how life evolved on Earth. It will change it will adapt because it is science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109873457726812938?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109873457726812938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109873457726812938' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109873457726812938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109873457726812938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/10/was-darwin-wrong-national-geographic.html' title='Was Darwin Wrong? @ National Geographic Magazine'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109570336209128628</id><published>2004-09-20T14:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-09-20T14:02:42.090-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." - Henry Louis Mencken&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109570336209128628?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109570336209128628/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109570336209128628' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570336209128628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570336209128628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/09/religion-is-fundamentally-opposed-to.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109570326926333593</id><published>2004-09-20T14:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-09-20T14:01:09.263-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."  -Stephen Roberts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109570326926333593?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109570326926333593/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109570326926333593' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570326926333593'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570326926333593'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/09/i-contend-that-we-are-both-atheists.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109570264593940652</id><published>2004-09-20T13:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-09-20T13:50:45.940-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'> "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." -Gene Roddenberry&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109570264593940652?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109570264593940652/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109570264593940652' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570264593940652'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109570264593940652'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/09/we-must-question-story-logic-of-having.html' title=''/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-109035051243037368</id><published>2004-07-20T15:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-10-29T13:28:21.823-04:00</updated><title type='text'>An Excellent Poem</title><content type='html'>Come walk away from the ancestral waters. &lt;br /&gt;Their depths lie in darkness; rise up from the bay. &lt;br /&gt;For faith that surrounds us can now only drown us. &lt;br /&gt;We cannot stay; come walk away. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come walk away from the tales of our childhood, &lt;br /&gt;From Eden's four rivers and God's seventh day. &lt;br /&gt;A continent rises which we must discover. &lt;br /&gt;Dare feel the clay; come walk away. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come walk away from the old persecutions, &lt;br /&gt;From cross and from rack and from auto-da-fe. &lt;br /&gt;Come up to the sunlight and air of free reason. &lt;br /&gt;The torrents slay; come walk away. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come walk away from the pond where we started. &lt;br /&gt;The old bog grows heavy and yields to decay. &lt;br /&gt;It sheltered us once, and we've always remembered &lt;br /&gt;Our yesterday -- but walked away. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Gary McGath &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-109035051243037368?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/109035051243037368/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=109035051243037368' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109035051243037368'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/109035051243037368'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/07/excellent-poem.html' title='An Excellent Poem'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-108990510135933078</id><published>2004-07-15T11:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-07-15T11:25:01.360-04:00</updated><title type='text'>REUNITE LUNA</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.reuniteluna.com/news_release.php?id=17"&gt;REUNITE LUNA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;A Good Cause.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-108990510135933078?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/108990510135933078/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=108990510135933078' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108990510135933078'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108990510135933078'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/07/reunite-luna.html' title='REUNITE LUNA'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-108820095674335591</id><published>2004-06-25T18:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-06-25T18:05:13.773-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A reply from Huntley Street </title><content type='html'>Dear Trevor:  Thanks for your e-mail.  It found me in Charlottetown, PEI.  Remember that 52 Liberals voted that one man one woman constitues a marriage last September.  Along with them, approximately two-thirds of the Progressive Conservatives, one third of the Block noted in order to make the amended motion a tie vote.  That tie was broken by the Speaker of the House who broke with tradition for Speakers and voted with the Governemnt rathe than voting with the last successful motion in the House on the same issue.  Therefore, approximately half of the encumbent MPs are for traditional marriage, and not all Conservative candidates are running  I think you are too intelligent a man to simply target this as a "religious righs" issue.  This is a human issue. the most solidly pro-traditional family in Dundas is a Unitarian family.  Also, the great atheistic states have never messed with the meaning of the word "Marriage."  This is a major issue for atheists as well as believers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for taking the time to write to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Mainse&lt;br /&gt;Minister of Evangelism &amp; Social Action&lt;br /&gt;Crossroads Christian Communications&lt;br /&gt;P O Box 5100&lt;br /&gt;1295 North Service Road&lt;br /&gt;Burlington,  ON  L7R 4M2&lt;br /&gt;Tel **********, Ext. ****&lt;br /&gt;Fax **********&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-108820095674335591?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/108820095674335591/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=108820095674335591' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108820095674335591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108820095674335591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/06/reply-from-huntley-street.html' title='A reply from Huntley Street '/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-108786446630103775</id><published>2004-06-21T20:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-09-27T16:21:42.726-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Open Letter to 100 Huntley Street</title><content type='html'>I am not sure that this letter is being written to the correct address, but I trust you will know where to forward it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just saw a commercial on TV with the former host of 100 Huntley Street’s unofficial endorsement of the Conservative Party in the upcoming federal election. While he did not come out and say to vote Conservative this was obviously the message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This election appears to be a very close one and it is my intention to vote Conservative as I have always done. I support an agenda of lower taxes and fiscal responsibility. I think you should know that there are a great many Conservative supporters including myself who are more than just a little “put off” by the religious right.  I see this commercial and it quite frankly makes me think twice and I am sure there are a great many disgruntled Liberals who after seeing this ad will be returning to the Liberal party for fear of electing a bunch of “Bible thumping extremists”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If your organization supports the Conservatives, you would serve them better to pull the ads off the air before any more damage is done. Do not make the mistake of seeing yourselves or you ideals as main stream.  Most Canadians I am sure would not support your message. Leave the political advertising to the experts or at the very least target your ads to like minded people. I am sure there is advertising available during the Benny Hinn show.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-108786446630103775?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/108786446630103775/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=108786446630103775' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108786446630103775'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108786446630103775'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/06/open-letter-to-100-huntley-street.html' title='Open Letter to 100 Huntley Street'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342679.post-108747970600465766</id><published>2004-06-17T09:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2004-06-17T09:41:46.003-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Calgary Sun: Whale led astray</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/CalgarySun/News/2004/06/17/502444.html"&gt;The Calgary Sun: Whale led astray&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With all due respect to the beliefs of of Native Canadians, it is one thing to carry on with traditions much like I do with Christmas, but when that tradition or belief interferes with the wellbeing of an intelligent creature, one has to draw the line.  It does not matter that an old man on his death bed says he is coming back as a whale, this cannot justify not reuniting a lost and lonely social animal with his/her family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is just another way in which religion and holding on to beliefs which should have been forgotten long ago interferes with doing what is right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would argue to the Mowachaht-Muchalaht tribe that even if their chief did come back as a whale, would that whale not not now require the company of his own.  I hope this issue can be resolved in a timely manner as we now have the technology to fix a mistake that nature has made and in doing so save a life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7342679-108747970600465766?l=free-thought.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/feeds/108747970600465766/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7342679&amp;postID=108747970600465766' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108747970600465766'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7342679/posts/default/108747970600465766'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://free-thought.blogspot.com/2004/06/calgary-sun-whale-led-astray.html' title='The Calgary Sun: Whale led astray'/><author><name>-M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02073446678427843306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
